In the inaugural episode of Beyond the Pale Ale, Matt sits down with Isaiah Kallman, from Black Abbey Brewing Co in Nashville, TN.

Discussion ranges from the difference between Michi-ganders and Miami-ans, and how Isaiah might actually be connected to royalty and own an actual castle!

Remember to keep supporting your local bars, restaurants, breweries and distilleries in these CRAZY COVID TIMES.

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